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Title: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: D3Dman on June 24, 2013, 08:34:47 PM
(http://imgcandy.com/di/X5OK/oil%20extraction%201.jpg)

I've gotten all the equipment I need together.

I've mcguyvered an oil extractor tube from a stainless steel turkey baster.
It is filled to the brim with shake from medical grade.
I have a coffee filter zip tied over the open end of the tube.
Got a Pyrex baking dish and Lucienne Butane, which I've read good reviews for.

I will provide additional details and pics as soon as I'm able to move forward with this experiment.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: iBaked on June 24, 2013, 10:35:05 PM
Oooooh, interesting.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: Swishahouse6 on June 24, 2013, 10:43:44 PM
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Sweet another D3 how to, I learned how to make some good MJ oil from D3. Please keep us updated.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: terminx on June 24, 2013, 10:44:07 PM
In case you aren't aware, you absolutely NEED to do this outside. It seems like common sense, but my wife was telling me just today about some dumbass who burned 90% of the skin off of his body doing this in a motel bathroom. Yes, he died.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: Swishahouse6 on June 24, 2013, 10:46:07 PM
In case you aren't aware, you absolutely NEED to do this outside. It seems like common sense, but my wife was telling me just today about some dumbass who burned 90% of the skin off of his body doing this in a motel bathroom. Yes, he died.

Good point, now everybody huddle around for a safety break  :passing-joint:
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: D3Dman on June 24, 2013, 10:54:00 PM
In case you aren't aware, you absolutely NEED to do this outside. It seems like common sense, but my wife was telling me just today about some dumbass who burned 90% of the skin off of his body doing this in a motel bathroom. Yes, he died.

Yeah - that's the only thing preventing me from doing it tonight. Nasty storm rolled in.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: iBaked on June 24, 2013, 10:56:24 PM
In case you aren't aware, you absolutely NEED to do this outside. It seems like common sense, but my wife was telling me just today about some dumbass who burned 90% of the skin off of his body doing this in a motel bathroom. Yes, he died.

Wait wait wait, do what? If I was going to do this I'm sure I would research it properly and more than likely come across this info along with the process, but why exactly is this absolutely necessary asides from the side effects obviously? Ventilation purposes, or am I missing something else here?

Damn I've been off these pot cigarettes for way too long, damnit! All the cool shit comes out after I must commit to not partaking :(
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: D3Dman on June 24, 2013, 11:06:04 PM
In case you aren't aware, you absolutely NEED to do this outside. It seems like common sense, but my wife was telling me just today about some dumbass who burned 90% of the skin off of his body doing this in a motel bathroom. Yes, he died.

Wait wait wait, do what? If I was going to do this I'm sure I would research it properly and more than likely come across this info along with the process, but why exactly is this absolutely necessary asides from the side effects obviously? Ventilation purposes, or am I missing something else here?

Damn I've been off these pot cigarettes for way too long, damnit! All the cool shit comes out after I must commit to not partaking :(

One little spark makes for a very messy death.

The fumes clear MUCH faster outside.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: Akitsu on June 24, 2013, 11:59:16 PM
Done it a few times myself... be sure and have oven mitts or tongs... that shit get cold.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: tonedef on June 25, 2013, 02:26:40 AM
@70% THC you shall have some good times ahead!!
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: R on June 25, 2013, 08:59:47 AM
I thought you did this last year?
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: D3Dman on June 25, 2013, 09:56:38 AM
I thought you did this last year?

Helped a friend. Used his equipment.

This is the first time I'm doing it for myself, alone, with my own tools.
Plus, it's fun to document. :D
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: R on June 25, 2013, 10:05:35 AM
I still think pentane or hexane is far safer.  For that matter a xylene x-traction would even help reduce plant lipids, waxes and sterols.  The only caveat is you should finish with a vacuum evaporation to completely remove solvents with higher alkanes.  Butane is hard to handle and dangerous; yes, I know it is widely available. 
 
CO2 supercritical fluid extraction would be ideal, but you would need a few grand to invest.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: D3Dman on June 25, 2013, 10:10:23 AM
I still think pentane or hexane is far safer.  For that matter a xylene x-traction would even help reduce plant lipids, waxes and sterols.

Cant get any of these.

Butane, unfortunately, is convenient.
I would prefer oxygen, honestly.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: R on June 25, 2013, 10:39:56 AM
Just be safe, do it outside, protect your workspace from static electricity, have a safety/escape plan and think all the time it could blow up in your face.
 
I don't want to have to attend your damn funeral Bro.  I don't go to relative's funerals. 
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: D3Dman on June 25, 2013, 10:47:01 AM
Just be safe, do it outside, protect your workspace from static electricity, have a safety/escape plan and think all the time it could blow up in your face.
 
I don't want to have to attend your damn funeral Bro.  I don't go to relative's fnerals.

I've been thinking 'This could blow up in my face' since the moment I decided to go ahead with it.

Definitely will be done outside.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: dub on June 25, 2013, 12:12:47 PM
Use a small piece 110 silk screem ziptied over the end, instead of a coffee filter. You can buy them at an art store.

I usually use a large PVC tube capped with a plastic fence post top, with a hole drilled into the top with a drill bit matching the size of the butane dispenser. Glue / epoxy the fence post top to the PVC pipe.

Use a large pyrex mixing bowl to blow the oil into.

When your done, you will place that bowl into another similar bowl with hot water in it. The bowl inside the hot water bowl will start bubbling viciously. Hold it over the hot water bowl until all the bubbles stop and the material reduces down. Once it completey stops bubbling, it is time to let it sit and cure. As it cures, you should "whip" it a couple times a day to get a nice thick consistency.

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GREY WOLF does an super in depth, informative class showing his own method of of extraction, purging and cleaning of hash oil and other MMJ extractions. He has an amazing lab where he holds his classes:

Skunk Pharm Research LLC
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/skunk-pharm-research-classes/

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Outside still isn't 100% safe. Butane is a heavy gas, it stays low to the ground and spreads out quickly. A passing car throwing out a cigarette can ignite it, your dryer turning on in the garage, your water heater, etc.

Make sure you have excellent ventilation, and if you do start a fire, use a fire extinguisher, water will not work.

When you are done making your oil, quickly remove all used materials from your house.

If you do get raided, any proof of BHO making will get u you charged with running a drug lab. No different than making methamphetamine's.


Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: D3Dman on June 25, 2013, 12:43:35 PM
You don't want to use PVC, dub. Butane strips it. You get baddies in your oil.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: R on June 25, 2013, 12:47:34 PM
Rigid PVC is resistant to butane, hexane and pentane at room temperature.  If you raise the temperature of the solvents, PVC will come under some attack from alkanes.  It is less resistant to higher alkanes.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: dub on June 25, 2013, 12:54:51 PM
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You don't want to use PVC, dub. Butane strips it. You get baddies in your oil.

PVC is what everyone uses out here.

The best would be those hand made glass tubes. But they are like $99 each as opposed to .99 cents each for PVC.

Your stainless steel turkey baster works well too, you just can't fit that much at a time into it.
It would be cool to find someone making stainless steel BHO tubes.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: dub on June 25, 2013, 01:00:47 PM
Yo man, check this out:

Butane Honey Oil extraction refers to the method used to extract the essential oils from cannabis, and there are multiple theories on the best way to accomplish this, as well as what material is best to use.
Perhaps the first question is why use a BHO technique to extract the resins, instead of just boiling the material in alcohol to get the greatest amount of extracted material?
The answer to that is that because butane is relatively non polar, it doesn’t extract the water solubles like chlorophyll and plant alkaloids.
Butane produces one of the cleanest extractions, albeit typically at a lower yield than polar alcohol.

Butane Honey Oil, or BHO, is the essential oil from the cannabis plant, extracted using n-Butane as a solvent. 
If it is extracted from fresh material, it is a Concrete, and if from cured material, it is an Oleoresin. 
A concrete or an oleoresin that has been winterized to remove the waxes, lipids, and fats, is known as an Absolute.

http://skunkpharmresearch.com/bho-extraction/

I would post it, but there is WAY too much info.

GREY WOLF RAWKS !!!
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: R on June 25, 2013, 01:23:53 PM
It comes to mind you could easily do a steam distillation to recover the essential oils, or smells from cannabis, then dry the herbs and do an alkane extraction.  Afterwards, add the aromatic oil back to the alkane extraction.
 
That would be a really nice product.  '
 
Alternately, you could remove the aromas by steam distillation and when you were finished with the alkane extraction there would be no associated aroma--it would be a stealth product!
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: R on June 25, 2013, 01:33:38 PM
OH, who am I kidding.  You have to be someone like Dub who has access to buds in order to experiement with weed alchemy.  I want to try lots of things with weed but facts are facts--Im not goiing to have the opportunity anytime soon.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: dub on June 25, 2013, 01:34:58 PM
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It comes to mind you could easily do a steam distillation to recover the essential oils, or smells from cannabis, then dry the herbs and do an alkane extraction.  Afterwards, add the aromatic oil back to the alkane extraction.
That would be a really nice product.  '
Alternately, you could remove the aromas by steam distillation and when you were finished with the alkane extraction there would be no associated aroma--it would be a stealth product!

That is actually the "new thang" to do. Ken Estes of the Grandaddy Purple Dispensary was repping that method at the High Times Cannabis Cup this past weekend.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: GrindCandy on June 25, 2013, 01:37:18 PM
I would just bluntit. Unless shake is super fine!
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: D3Dman on June 25, 2013, 01:59:42 PM
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You don't want to use PVC, dub. Butane strips it. You get baddies in your oil.

PVC is what everyone uses out here.

The best would be those hand made glass tubes. But they are like $99 each as opposed to .99 cents each for PVC.

Your stainless steel turkey baster works well too, you just can't fit that much at a time into it.
It would be cool to find someone making stainless steel BHO tubes.

Just because everyone does it doesn't mean it's healthy ;P

Buy a Large Stainless Steel thermos. Drill a hole in the cap for the nozzle of the Can.  Drill out the bottom of the thermos (or chop it with a hack saw. whatever.)

That would work.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: D3Dman on June 25, 2013, 02:00:53 PM
I would just bluntit. Unless shake is super fine!

I hate smoking blunts. They make my lungs feel terrible.

 I smoke bongs/bubblers. And vape.

The oil is to try to further minimize the amount of smoke I intake. :D
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: Subgenius on June 25, 2013, 02:45:04 PM


   BUENA SURTE Spiced brother.

   Watch your ventilation!!!   Be EXTREMELY careful!!!!
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: GrindCandy on June 25, 2013, 02:49:30 PM
Hopefully it wont taste like some people shit and still taste butane. mixtures tho from many strains have some of the best effects! Good luck
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: D3Dman on June 25, 2013, 03:23:43 PM
Here's a dab from a small test batch I ran a couple hours ago. I'll post more pics w/details of the process when I have a chance.

(http://imgcandy.com/di/38QH/Wax 1.jpg)

(http://img.anonfiles.org/images/73173611429711911383.jpg)

open them in a new tab if you want them full size
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: deckard cain on June 25, 2013, 09:07:33 PM
Wow that looks flipping suhWEET!
Grats
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: spicer on June 25, 2013, 10:24:56 PM
Here's a dab from a small test batch I ran a couple hours ago. I'll post more pics w/details of the process when I have a chance.

[img width=896 height=768]http://imgcandy.com/di/38QH/Wax 1.jpg[img]

[img width=603 height=768]http://img.anonfiles.org/images/73173611429711911383.jpg[img]

open them in a new tab if you want them full size
Bet that shit gets you blazed if you have a relatively low tolerance  :stoned :stoned :stoned :stoned :stoned
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: D3Dman on June 25, 2013, 10:29:44 PM
Nope. Very high MJ tolerance.

Extracts and concentrates are where it's at, though, for sure.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: D3Dman on June 26, 2013, 12:52:02 AM
oh man. I ended up with shatter. I win.

I put a nice piece of THC rock candy on top of this last bong slider and took a nice big hit. I'm feeling happy happy happy.
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: deckard cain on June 26, 2013, 10:48:33 AM
Haha WOOWOOOO!
Title: Re: About to make my first batch of Honey Oil
Post by: R on June 26, 2013, 11:28:22 AM
Coolness bro.  Congrats!  You are buying the first round next time...
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