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Title: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: orthene on June 27, 2017, 12:21:55 PM
Myself and at least one other forum member are in a crossroads situation of a grow. Newbies with starter plants in a medi-cannabis grow that could be a little heartier. My experience: I used a good planting media to start, but I used an inferior potting soil and am kind of feeling the regret. This week I am going to get some premium topsoil and some vermiculite and perlite. Previously all I have done, aside from lighting, turning, and ventilation, is add some epsom salts to the soil; it did green everything up quick. I have a family member that did a few large grows that were very successful until he decided MMJ was not personally for him; but he does have some enthusiasm of watching someone else's grow and does throw out some advice nuggets out here and there.

A few things I have gleaned: Going all out with special feeding regimens, and pH testing and the like are not really for me. I am not going to the Cannabis Cup; I want to be able to maintain the amount of plants the state allows for my own medical needs. I found the strain that works for pain without inducing couch lock (Blue Dream) for me, ymmv. It seems to grow easily, and I want to "work smart, not hard." I want to share some soil guidelines that I found, which seem to be pretty comprehensive. I am going to make changes, learning as things proceed.

http://herb.co/2016/05/06/super-soil-2-best-soil-for-marijuana/

My immediate concerns are transferring to a better planting medium and adding vermiculite, and using some epsom salt to boost magnesium and green everything up. Just want to get my stalks stronger before flowering so they can handle the weight of the buds. Probably going to push flowering back another 4 weeks since I should have started with a more supportive soil mix. If anyone has grow experience/tips/anecdotes/opinions, please jump in here and share.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 3V1L9371U5 on June 27, 2017, 01:27:19 PM
Just move to Kentucky. Our "dark and bloody ground" is quite good.

I had hoped we would be able to capitalize on this historical strong point, but I'm afraid our dumbass state gov has let other states get the jump on us.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: ÂçïÐ_Rëƒlü×® on June 27, 2017, 04:24:47 PM
FoxFarm Ocean Forest is all you need.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: orthene on June 27, 2017, 10:19:36 PM
Thanks I will check that out. There is a hydroponic store real close by me that should have it or it's equivalent. I really don't want to mix my own guano and earthworm castings in by hand. One of the times I like things pre-fabbed for me. :)
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: Simonsays on June 29, 2017, 03:30:19 PM
FoxFarm Ocean Forest is all you need.

:goodpost:
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: orthene on June 29, 2017, 10:42:43 PM
The Hydroponic Gardening shop in my town has FoxFarm !  ;D I bought bigger pots as well after watching a video that convinced me my plants are potbound. Being sativa dominant, turns out they may get pretty big too. I had not taken that into consideration, but I have the space to spare so no bother.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: ÂçïÐ_Rëƒlü×® on June 30, 2017, 08:54:59 AM
The Hydroponic Gardening shop in my town has FoxFarm !  ;D I bought bigger pots as well after watching a video that convinced me my plants are potbound. Being sativa dominant, turns out they may get pretty big too. I had not taken that into consideration, but I have the space to spare so no bother.

train them down and trim them to make them low and bushy. read about LST. Training , trimming and so much more at http://reddit.com/r/microgrowery
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: orthene on June 30, 2017, 01:15:38 PM
Thanks Acid, I will check that out. Been watching a lot of videos and reading from the grow sites. There are more grow strategies for different situations than I ever imagined. My next research reading project is going to be determining gender. Don't want my progress impeded by males.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on June 30, 2017, 11:09:01 PM
 :weed-sign:
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on June 30, 2017, 11:14:57 PM
FoxFarm Ocean Forest is all you need.

Crazy pricey.
Next time I will splurge and get this stuff. I did buy some Foxfarm fertilzer. 3 bottle variety pack. Really making a difference.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: orthene on July 01, 2017, 09:16:03 PM
One of my plants at 7 weeks. Just 3 hours after repotting; it perked up quite a bit. I think the smaller pots were stunting the plants. Sorry about the large image, too lazy at the moment to resize.   :cigar


(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc447/orthene1/20170701_204604.jpg)
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: ÂçïÐ_Rëƒlü×® on July 02, 2017, 09:57:35 AM
Time to FiM
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on July 02, 2017, 10:25:59 AM
http://www.growweedeasy.com/fim-your-way-to-multiple-colas
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on July 02, 2017, 10:28:14 AM
http://www.growweedeasy.com/fim-your-way-to-multiple-colas

A lot too learn.

Now I know.

Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: orthene on July 02, 2017, 11:09:23 AM
http://www.growweedeasy.com/fim-your-way-to-multiple-colas
Awesome, thanks for the linky. Got some reading to do, followed up by more how-to videos.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: ÂçïÐ_Rëƒlü×® on July 02, 2017, 04:55:47 PM
Ask Simon for some tips. I helped him get started and he does very well for himself
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on July 02, 2017, 10:07:34 PM
(http://rs209.pbsrc.com/albums/bb317/dan_walters/20170702_183123_zpskthxpcnd.jpg?w=480&h=480&fit=clip)

My 1st grow photo. 4x4x80 tent. 1000w  LED. Planted 5/14/2017.
Skunk and purple gorilla.
Another 1st is this is my 1st phone... Photo post. 

Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: orthene on July 03, 2017, 12:20:56 PM
Impressive. I just changed over to all LED lighting yesterday.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on July 03, 2017, 06:25:21 PM
Impressive. I just changed over to all LED lighting yesterday.

What lighting were you using andvwhat did u get?
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: orthene on July 05, 2017, 11:18:43 AM
I was using fluorescent. Now I am using LED strip lights mounted to wood framework. Seems to give a lot better coverage.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on July 05, 2017, 04:00:40 PM
My setup is 1000w setup from Amazon. So far so good. Neptune fishd kelp juicevworks good.Ok 
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: orthene on July 08, 2017, 01:09:51 PM
When I repotted, my wife bitched for two days about the smell. That's about how long the grow room smelled like someone took a dump in it. The fans running pushed the love even further lol.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on July 08, 2017, 02:32:58 PM
I bought a fan n carbon filter kit on amazon. Incredible how well the thing works. Smell disappeared.
Plants are groing like weeds. Cloth pots by far are the best. Learning so much on my first grow.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: Uruk-High on July 10, 2017, 12:50:50 PM
I was using fluorescent. Now I am using LED strip lights mounted to wood framework. Seems to give a lot better coverage.

Good call. Fluorescent lights suck for MJ growing. I haven't used LEDs for the purpose myself, but halogen and/or HPS rigs bring the sun to your grow area. :weedspin
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: ÂçïÐ_Rëƒlü×® on July 10, 2017, 06:59:04 PM
I was using fluorescent. Now I am using LED strip lights mounted to wood framework. Seems to give a lot better coverage.

Good call. Fluorescent lights suck for MJ growing. I haven't used LEDs for the purpose myself, but halogen and/or HPS rigs bring the sun to your grow area. :weedspin

Halogen no Mh yes
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on July 10, 2017, 08:13:47 PM
LED for this grow. I will learn allot. We shall see what the flowering cycle looks like, but so far I'm sold on veg. I think we will  change to flowering cycle nect week. I sltill have  16 plants. Figure i will give flowering a week and then hopefully cull the males. There is no solid evidence of sex at this stage.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on July 11, 2017, 05:40:57 PM
FoxFarm Ocean Forest is all you need.

Crazy pricey.
Next time I will splurge and get this stuff. I did buy some Foxfarm fertilzer. 3 bottle variety pack. Really making a difference.
I bought a small bag and this dirt is the best. My next grow will be with this stuff for sure.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: Smoke on July 11, 2017, 06:00:39 PM
Nice discussion guys.
Fox Farms has always done me right.
Good. Luck with your grows guys/gals
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: Uruk-High on July 13, 2017, 09:45:51 AM
I was using fluorescent. Now I am using LED strip lights mounted to wood framework. Seems to give a lot better coverage.

Good call. Fluorescent lights suck for MJ growing. I haven't used LEDs for the purpose myself, but halogen and/or HPS rigs bring the sun to your grow area. :weedspin

Halogen no Mh yes

Right, it's been awhile unfortunately. I used to have a rig that would accept MH and HPS bulbs. That thing kicked ass! :weedspin
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on July 16, 2017, 11:01:40 AM
(https://m.imgur.com/a/IcY8G)
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on July 16, 2017, 12:00:18 PM
Impressive. I just changed over to all LED lighting yesterday.
I am interested to hear more about the lights you bought and your grow in general.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: orthene on July 16, 2017, 07:33:43 PM
Impressive. I just changed over to all LED lighting yesterday.
I am interested to hear more about the lights you bought and your grow in general.
The lighting I got from my son, who grew about 3 years ago and got a pretty good yield. He got rid of most of his growing equipment after he quit smoking awhile back. I don't really know about the wattage or anything. Any tech info was on the rear circuit boards which I mounted to the underside of a table. I don't have mylar, but I added a couple of large mirrors to box in my grow area. And of course a fan to circulate and strengthen the plants.

I am pretty sure your grow is probably a little quicker and more productive than mine; I fully went into mine knowing I didn't have much money at all to throw into it. The most expensive of what I have paid into it is the Fox Farms soil, organic plant food, and buying larger pots when my plants outgrew the smaller ones. The lights were hand me ups and I didn't ask much about them. I have five Blue Dream plants that look pretty healthy. They are 13 to 16 inches tall and standing straight up even when the fan hits them. Then I have three plants that are from different seeds that I pulled from a bag of unidentified buds. These guys are runts, and one of the three has to be propped up to stand. I am not willing to throw them out just yet, but don't have high hopes for them either.

I am going to try flowering the Blue Dreams at the beginning of August. Giving the stalks a little more time to strengthen and me to get a timer set up and finish organizing the flowering closet. I am going to use a walk in closet for flowering; it's otherwise unused and I can keep it 100 percent dark. The three runts I am going to flower later if I get them a little heartier.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on July 16, 2017, 09:13:55 PM
I have about $500 total  outlay. That includes light,dirt,exhaust filter,tent,timer, pots, fertilizers,watering cans, cups, trays, ... and everthing else. I have 4 bedrooms upstairs and i put the tent in my office. About 100 of that is mistakes or dumb newbie buys...
The floor of the tent is a sea of green and the plants look like they just had an explosive growth spirt. Like 2 inchs overnight. My plans were to kick in flowering mode this weekend but with the seamingly huge growth spurt i will wait another week. I had my lights set at 18 n 6... but left the lights on 24/7 and i think i will try that for this week.  Next week 12 n  12....
5 16 17 highest plant, from the bottom of pot,  is 27 inches and lowest 20. The largest leave set is 9 inches across.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: ÂçïÐ_Rëƒlü×® on July 16, 2017, 10:04:51 PM
I have about $500 total  outlay. That includes light,dirt,exhaust filter,tent,timer, pots, fertilizers,watering cans, cups, trays, ... and everthing else. I have 4 bedrooms upstairs and i put the tent in my office. About 100 of that is mistakes or dumb newbie buys...
The floor of the tent is a sea of green and the plants look like they just had an explosive growth spirt. Like 2 inchs overnight. My plans were to kick in flowering mode this weekend but with the seamingly huge growth spurt i will wait another week. I had my lights set at 18 n 6... but left the lights on 24/7 and i think i will try that for this week.  Next week 12 n  12....
5 16 17 highest plant, from the bottom of pot,  is 27 inches and lowest 20. The largest leave set is 9 inches across.

Fox Farm Ocean Forest needs no fertilizer at all until flowering. Then use Fox Farm Super Bloom or Tiger Bloom after a good 2 day flush with clear water and into about the 2nd week of flowering. Make sure you are using filtered water with a ph of around 7-8.

Seems like expensive soil until you realize it is all inclusive.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on July 16, 2017, 10:50:47 PM
Fox farm fertilizer  3 pack  and Neptune fish n kelp and Epson salts. I have 3 half gallon water cans and put in about 1\2 cap of each and mix it with a stick.Leaves are lush. Currently have 16 cloth pots and they get watered almost everyday now.
Cloth pots I think is a big improvement. No over watering or stagnate water in bottom of flower pot.




Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on July 19, 2017, 05:23:06 PM
Tallest plant is 32 inches.... growing like weeds.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on August 01, 2017, 08:53:51 PM
Planted 5 14 17... switched to 12  -12 lighting about 1 and a half weeks ago. Still no positive signs of male plants... or even female. I am such a newbie. Getting nervous... plants look awesome. Very healthy. What next?... like i told wifie... well we have about 2 pounds of leaves so far... if thats all we get >grinz<
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: ÂçïÐ_Rëƒlü×® on August 01, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Planted 5 14 17... switched to 12  -12 lighting about 1 and a half weeks ago. Still no positive signs of male plants... or even female. I am such a newbie. Getting nervous... plants look awesome. Very healthy. What next?... like i told wifie... well we have about 2 pounds of leaves so far... if thats all we get >grinz<

stay with 12/12 for a cpl more weeks.  if you mess with the light too much you piss them off and make herms.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: orthene on August 02, 2017, 12:03:40 PM
Going to pick up some Neem. Top layer of soil seems dry, butI am getting some fungus gnats.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on August 02, 2017, 09:07:19 PM
Going to pick up some Neem. Top layer of soil seems dry, but I am getting some fungus gnats.
Fly paper works very well, especially in a tent. They also make sticky sticks to put in the pot. Dude told me they work great, bought some, pretty inexpensive but cured the gnats with some bud friendly bug spray I bought at hydroponics store in Dayton.
.....
KABOOM
Killed 3 obviously male plants tonight.! Will check again tomorrow.
I added a 25 watt RED LED tonight too.
Gonna get me some serious bud me thinks.>grinz<
Getting excited now.

Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on August 05, 2017, 10:58:48 PM
FIVE males total , are dead.
The rest of the plants, except 2 slow poles have flowered. look like females... Did I ever luck out On the female/ male ratio thing.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: orthene on August 06, 2017, 10:42:38 AM
Well, in regards to the fungus gnats....I did a root drench with Neem. Removed all plants from the grow area and sprayed residual insecticide on the walls. Waited several hours to insure the walls were completely dry before putting the plants back in place. Since I realize that Neem doesn't kill the gnats, but rather keeps them from feeding and reproducing, I'm pretty impressed to have seen zero gnats for the past two days. I still should probably do a topical treatment to the leaves, but going to wait a few. They are finally having a growth spurt, and I may be in good shape to start the lighting schedule.

Edit: As an aside, everything I read on Neem oil said it had an odor of peanuts and garlic. My son (who thinks he knows more than me) said he used Orangecide, which I googled and am pretty sure does not exist. But after the treatment the room smelled orange-y to me. The label made no mention of d-Limonene, and I think if it was added the label would have touted its presence. The brand I used was Garden Safe for Organic Gardening. 70 pct. hydrophobic neem oil extract concentrate, not sure what the other 30 pct. is.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on August 10, 2017, 09:54:48 PM
All my the plants are beginning to flower. I added the deep red 25 watt LED lamp next to 1000w full spectrum LED.  The major plant directly under the new RED lamp had a reslly big growth spirt. I sware the plant grew 6 inches in 48 hours.
Keeping my fingers crossed. Hoping for big yield. Plants look really healthy. I think there are 15 left. All females me hopes.
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Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: 1954 on August 15, 2017, 03:58:58 PM
Tallest is now 42 inches tall.play by play.
Title: Re: How To Make The Best Soil For Marijuana
Post by: Smoke on August 15, 2017, 04:50:11 PM
Nice 1954.
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