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Title: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: orthene on May 15, 2018, 12:26:29 AM
This will be an effort to document the effects of LemonTree RSO as a running journal. Doses (that work for me) are about 1.5 size of a grain of rice, and tend to be effective for 4-5 hours. For sake of comparison, I am 5'10" and 180 lbs. I normally take 3 doses of opiates a day, and steer clear of taking before bed because they cause me sleeplessness. So I usually wake up with a pain level of 4.

Day 1. (Sat) I started out the day with a pain level at about 4/10 on my Norco pill, which I had already taken. So at my next dosage time I took the RSO only; it takes about an hour to begin working. First dose taken at 12 p.m. and dropped the pain level to 3 by 1 p.m. Subsequent doses at 5 and 10 p.m.  Noted at sometime after 8 that the pain had zeroed out.

Day 2. (Sun) Slept good from the 10 p.m. dose even if I didn't fall asleep immediately. Woke up after about 6 hours sleep at a 4 on the pain scale. I think I wake up that way because of not taking Norco before bed. I'm taking a RSO dose at each 5 hour point but so far not adding any other pain meds. Took the RSO at 8 a.m., 1 p.m., 6 p.m., and 11. Pain was nil most of the day.

Day 3 (Mon) Woke up registering a 2 on the pain scale. I think it's beneficial to move the days last dose til as late as possible, judging from the improvement. So, I moved doses to 9,2,7, and 12 midnight. Mowed the lawn but saved trimming and raking when the ache ramped up to a 3. Just warning pains though, so I backed off. Showered and laid down for 45 mins on my back. That took the pain down to nothing again.

Day 4 (Tues) A level 2 at wakeup again. Good sleep; if I could get the time from hitting the pillow to actually sawing logs in less than a half hour, I'd be happy.  Finished raking, trimming, and bagging the lawn waste all at about a level 2 during the most taxing of the chores. Back to zero pain score after shower and some couch time.

Day 5 (Weds) Actually woke up with no pain. Not a whole lot happening on this day, just a few chores most people take for granted, but whose twists and bends can be a bit cumbersome on chronic back pain. Vacuuming the floor, making the bed, washing dishes. Just wanted to mention that the RSO can make it easy to want to sit down and chill, but it's still not taxing at all to get up and get things done. Some precursor legs spasms in evening.

Day 6 (Thurs) Woke up with some minor morning pain, but took the 9 a.m. dose and pain was gone by 10. Rainy days tend to be achier, but it rained off and on all day. The day was boring but at least it wasn't painful.

Day 7 (Fri)Level 2 morning pain. RSO seems to wear off in that 5th hour, so morning pain is just a minor inconvenience. If it took a downturn, there's always the solution of setting an alarm and taking a small interim dose but I don't see that as necessary. Had a few brief muscle spasms, nothing full blown.

End of week one; I'll get caught up from my notes asap.
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: orthene on May 15, 2018, 08:58:56 PM
Day 8. (Sat) Got up after 6 hours of sleep with no pain. Went outside to see if I could mess that up. After first morning dose, crawled up under my truck with a buddy, partially to check my tolerance and partly to get a second opinion on my brakes. At this point, kind of getting used to the absence of pain I usually still experience even with opiates. I'm still aware of the affected area and can concentrate on that exact area; it's just not bothering me. More or less the way a person knows/is aware of their appendages in a neutral fashion. I've noticed an appetite increase when using RSO; it's a positive because I don't always eat the way I should. As long as I know my limits and avoid poor food choices -nothing wrong with this at all.
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: djpinito on May 16, 2018, 12:39:59 AM
I am loving the results you are getting. I can't wait till you try the high CBD formula.

Great review so far, can't wait to try it out. Didn't know wtf it was at first but man I know my back will love that lol. Just tryed the gummies and left a little review posted.
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: Ozone on May 16, 2018, 02:07:33 PM
Great review.

Thanks for including your dosage and size.

It's great to see people get suitable pain management effects without the use of pharmaceutical opiates.  :goodpost
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: KratomToke on May 16, 2018, 08:27:22 PM
Great review.

Thanks for including your dosage and size.

It's great to see people get suitable pain management effects without the use of pharmaceutical opiates.  :goodpost


Right on Orthene sounds like the RSO is helping a lot!
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: orthene on May 16, 2018, 10:19:10 PM
Day 9. (Sun) Another day, up without wake-up pain. Got my major accomplishments done for the day: washed the truck and mowed the lawn again. Did a lot of reaching out with the wash job; have to stretch to reach everything even using a short ladder. Minor pain jump to 3/10 after that; some attributed to rain as soon as I finished my chores. If you want to forgo a rain dance, try washing a vehicle and mowing the lawn. That guarantees rain I think. Had some of the precursor feeling to the leg spasms, but no actual spasms. I think a CBD boost will be effective mostly on the spasms -seems to be a home run for people with seizure issues.

Day 10. (Mon) No overnight pain, had six good hours of sleep. Another zero pain day; biggest strain/effort for the day was pulling my uncle's generator out of my shed to return to him. Observation on opiate relief vs. RSO relief: With the pills, the pain is always there and identifiable. As the doctor told me, opiates change the way your mind perceives pain. You know it's there, but the pills are just a buffer and help you to subconsciously avoid stress that would exacerbate that pain. With RSO, it seems the pain can go from being muted all the way up to not feeling it at all and thereby becoming unable to describe as a feeling.

Day 11 (Tues) Good day with no pain. I can actually get more stuff done instead of alternating 15 min periods of standing/sitting/walking. With RSO, I can get laser-focused on tasks while pills keep me from most linear thought  process.

Day 12 (Weds) Only some minor pain, about level two, while helping the wife with some laundry. Couple of muscle spasms late in the evening, but they didn't last long. Before RSO, and before being put on a muscle relaxant, I even had one spasm episode that lasted two days straight. That one got bad enough that I finally ended up at the hospital for intramuscular injections of steroid and relaxant. Remembering some talk a few days back about the benefits of consuming honey from local hives, I'm becoming curious about similar effects relating to where the cannabis one consumes is sourced from. It would be cool to learn that buying consumables locally could help immunize a person against allergens present in the area.
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: jones on May 19, 2018, 08:52:16 PM
This guy killed two birds with one stone by training his bees to make cannabis honey
from his marijuana plants   www.greenrushdaily.com/bees-making-honey-from-cannabis/
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: orthene on May 19, 2018, 11:03:06 PM
This guy killed two birds with one stone by training his bees to make cannabis honey
from his marijuana plants   www.greenrushdaily.com/bees-making-honey-from-cannabis/
Multitasking = Bonus
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: jones on May 19, 2018, 11:27:45 PM
This guy killed two birds with one stone by training his bees to make cannabis honey
from his marijuana plants   www.greenrushdaily.com/bees-making-honey-from-cannabis/
Multitasking = Bonus

Eat honey & get high
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: ÂçïÐ_Rëƒlü×® on May 20, 2018, 12:54:41 AM
Red pollen on honey bees is how they found the biggest grow operation in NYC of all time.
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: jimijams on May 20, 2018, 09:15:15 AM
thats unreal-wow-
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: Ozone on May 20, 2018, 01:19:19 PM
This guy killed two birds with one stone by training his bees to make cannabis honey
from his marijuana plants   www.greenrushdaily.com/bees-making-honey-from-cannabis/
Multitasking = Bonus

Eat honey & get high

I've seen this back in the day but I forgot about it. Thanks for the reminder Jonesy.
It also reminds me of this honey in Nepal that takes it to another level, figuratively and literally!

Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: orthene on May 21, 2018, 05:57:39 PM
Day 13 (Thurs) Early morning aches. Nothing physically strenuous going on. Once the first dose is taken, the aches melt off. Feeling better is leading to spending less time fidgeting and trying to stay comfortable. So used to changing positions and alternating between standing, sitting, laying down or pacing, that it's becoming apparent how much of my time and effort is wasted by these things. Still keeping dosage and times the same.

Day 14 (Fri) Woke up feeling pretty good and pushed the limits of what the doctor said I should be doing. Trimming my trees and bushes because I was feeling decent, but ended up jacking pain up to 4/10 with over extending my reach and picking things up that were a little heavy. So I made my last 2 doses of the day a little bigger and was 2/10 by the time I went to sleep.

Day 15 (Sat) Back down to zero pain today after yesterday's stupidity. Guess just because ya feel like you can do something doesn't mean ya should. Next time I see the Dr. going to get some input re: Medco 14 restrictions for employment purposes vs. what can I really get away with before I hurt myself. Even though I had surgery on one disk (albeit failed), I still have another that's bulging and not operable at this time. So.....Saturday is for relaxing, maybe even drink a beer or two lol.

Day 16 (Sun) Feeling pretty good. Stopped by my Mom's house and she scolded me for not using my cane. Told her I didn't need it at the moment and I hate looking like an old man. Yeah, yeah I know sometimes my leg gives out but not lately. Until I fall down, vanity rules.
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: djpinito on May 25, 2018, 01:58:51 PM
Good stuff loved the RSO. Sucks that I misplaced half of what was left from the 420 prize. Ugghhhh can't find it since last night.
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: orthene on May 26, 2018, 09:12:53 PM
Day 17 (Mon) I fell asleep almost immediately Sunday night and awoke with no pain. Maybe a cumulative effect? Went to the park with the wife to pick up pine cones for a craft project she's working on and ended up on a walking trail through the woods.  The last marker before reaching the clearing where we started said we walked 3 miles. No issues with pain into the evening; been a long time since I walked a trail, let alone three miles. That took just over two hours.
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: orthene on May 27, 2018, 11:31:10 PM
Day 18 (Tues) What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. Woke up a little stiff from Monday's hike through the woods (stretching muscles not regularly in use), but no back pain.  So I set up a trade to get some firewood for my firepit. Not a lot, but enough to see what I could handle. Loaded up a small section of my truck bed, xferred to a tote once home and dragged it back to the backyard. Got a little warning ache telling me to chill out, so that's what I did. After an RSO dose, and an hour on the couch, I was back to normal. I can see myself getting some stuff accomplished for the time being.
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: jones on May 28, 2018, 01:11:51 AM
This is awesome. I hope you have enough to last the summer. if not hmu.

That would truly be a miracle, kinda like Hanukah--I hope you are ready to light some candles
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: jimijams on June 01, 2018, 09:53:11 AM
Orthene!--A lot of great info and personal life experience-- A really great journal of your experiences with lemon Tree RSO- I have been using it also and it has alleviated much daily pain and i started feeling better/more balanced inside each day since starting it- (last wk)-- The Lemon Tree RSO is really medicinal and really helps with muscle pain and tension/ anxiety/ stress--I can not add much, but only echo Orthene's experiences with this wonderful substance!--Will give a multi-person review after i share the gummies with a  Band i am working with  ;o)
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: djpinito on June 02, 2018, 12:07:51 AM
The lemon tree RSO is awesome, wish I had more for my back pain as well as my mind. I recently been put on Prozac now earlier this week by the VA.
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: jones on June 02, 2018, 12:55:44 AM
The lemon tree RSO is awesome, wish I had more for my back pain as well as my mind. I recently been put on Prozac now earlier this week by the VA.

I was on prozac once, after 6 weeks I had a huge seizure & they took me off it
After that I told my pharmacologist I was just gonna exercise 3 times a week, but I never did too
much cause everytime I try I get so damn sore and also cause I'm super fuckin lazy & smoking dabs doesn't seem to lend well to exercise, unless feeding the local rabbits counts
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: orthene on June 02, 2018, 02:31:33 AM
Day 19 (Weds) At this point, I'm thinking me getting up a bit achy is pretty good considering I don't get up in the night to dose. Because I'm sleeping all the way through. I had to install a rough-in kit and new faucet in the garden tub laying on my back with my trusty wrench and teflon tape, and didn't feel half-dead afterwards. Hey I might as well get some stuff done while I'm feeling pretty good.

(Trying to catch up on writing these. Last couple days I've had around here are a story for another thread...woot).

Day 20 (Thurs) Feeling good enough today to start a new project (better to consider them projects than chores). Started removing limbs from 2 evergreen trees that should have never been planted where they are. Had to promise my other half I wouldn't do the heavy cuts or actual felling on my own.  Doctor's orders not to lift anything over 20 lbs. and at that, only a couple times daily, are too restrictive at the moment. Then again, those restrictions were on Medco-14 forms and that mainly applies to employment. Too bad even a physicians referral won't keep most employers from denying a job due to cannabis in pre-employment testing and subsequent randoms.
Title: Re: Pain management with LemonTree RSO journal
Post by: orthene on June 04, 2018, 07:15:37 PM
Day 21 (Fri) You'd think I would run out of things to do, taking advantage of the pain relief from RSO and the lack of scatterbrain feeling I get from pain pills. Cannabis in general allows me to really focus on tasks, and the oil extends that advantage for hours. Today I dragged out the pressure washer and power washed all my siding and decking wood. All this done without pain. I still have to take breaks, but they are spaced further out.

Day 22 (Sat) Was able to pick up a pretty decent size load of firewood. Pretty much found my limit on this one; dude had just cut down a tree and the pile seemed much larger than the picture on Craig's List. Jacked my pain up to about a 5/10.  Got it back down to a 2/10 by bedtime and took a final dose of RSO for the day and slept all the way through to Sunday.

Day 23 (Sun) Got up feeling like the day after a vigorous workout. Some minor ouchiness from doing more than I really should have. Added an ibuprophen 600 to the afternoon dose. All good.

Day 24 (Mon) Last full day using the RSO. Pain at 1/10. Pulled some weeds from my landscaping and loaded up some logs in the firepit. Stayed up late watching the fire and listening to tunes.
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