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The leader of Mexico's brutal Zetas organization has been captured in northern Mexico, authorities announced. According to the Associated Press:

Trevino Morales, 40, was captured by Mexican Marines who intercepted a pickup truck with $2 million in cash on a dirt road in the countryside outside the border city of Nuevo Laredo, which has long served as the Zetas' base of operations. The truck was halted by a Marine helicopter and Trevino Morales was taken into custody along with a bodyguard and an accountant and eight guns, government spokesman Eduardo Sanchez told reporters.
 



Trevino Morales (state.gov)
 The US State Dept. had offered up to $5 million for help in capturing him.

The report is mainly about the facts of the capture, and of Morales and the Zetas. There's one expert quote, about Morales:

"He is the most sadistic drug capo in Mexico," said George Grayson, a professor of Latin American politics at the College of William and Mary and an expert on the Zetas cartel. "He delights in inflicting torture and pain. He deserves to be in the lowest rungs of hell."

 

Grayson's take on Morales is easy to accept, if one has read any articles about the Mexican drug wars of the past several years. In fact there are reports I wish I'd never read. That said, I wish the reporter had sought some expert quotes about whether capturing a kingpin like Morales is likely to reduce drug trafficking or availability or abuse; and whether it could reduce the violence.

The answer to the first question is decidedly "no." The Zetas will continue doing business and/or will splinter into rival factions doing business and/or other drug trafficking organizations will get the business. This is what has always happened previously.

Looking at the second question, the backdrop is that illegal drug trafficking exists because of prohibition. Absent drug prohibition laws, the trade and the vast revenues it currently generates would mostly reside in the licit economy, not encouraging violence in the trade. All that would be left in the underground is a sliver from "gray market" activity, smuggling to evade taxation and so forth.

Mexico's drug wars have reached the height of violence they have in recent years, in part because of the escalation of anti-cartel activity -- such as the capture of cartel leaders like Morales. It's had the effect of producing many localized drug trafficking groups, fighting many more wars than was the case before. The current weakness of the government in terms of keeping a lid of crime is also a factor. The aggressive escalation of anti-cartel activity undertook by the administration of former Pres. Enrique Calderon came at a time when the government was least able to minimize the unintended consequences of such a program, which made it even worse.

Does that mean that Morales's capture will necessarily provoke yet more violence? It might, but that depends on which way Mexico goes. One of the truisms of prohibition is that tolerating the prohibited activity can sometimes reduce the violence associated with the prohibited activity. One cartel can be replaced by a less violent one, if the government quietly allows that to happen.

So Mexico has some choices to make. But it would be better to expand the set of choices by considering international legalization systems, as Latin American leadership is currently pressing for a discussion of.

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Re: Will Mexico Cartel Leader's Capture Reduce Violence or Drug Abuse?
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2013, 04:42:44 PM »
IMO some things will get worse but i think it will be gang voilence. When gangs lose there leaders or control it starts alot of inner problems with people trying to take possesion and doing there own thing.

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Re: Will Mexico Cartel Leader's Capture Reduce Violence or Drug Abuse?
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2013, 05:07:29 PM »
To answerthe drug violence question my guess is no, the level of violence
as I see it must increase with the capture of this big boss. This is because
the new boss will need to impress upon his newly organized (under him)
gang of thugs that not only is he serious but he is even more dangerous
than the last boss.
   Lucky for them that the atf organized & funded the Fast & Furious program
which is where all the extra few thousands of guns came from. You see the ATF
was frustrated because only multiple handgun purchases were being recorded
and forwarded to the fbi. They also wanted rifles like the ar-15 & ak-47 to be
on the multiple records list, but legally were not able to force congress to make
that happen. So, some big dumb sack of crap high up in the justice dept (Holder)
or his dark master (obama) authorized allowing  large numbers of these type rifles
to be sold, even tho in most cases the folks making the purchase would never have
been permitted to buy or own a gun here in the us. There hope was that when the
death rate got high enough in mexico, public outcry would either make guns illegal,
or failing that they would get the multiple rifle forms pushed through, which is what
did happen. Lots of innocent people have died just for a lil' piece of paper, Brian Terry
is believed to be the first US citizen to have died with a us purchased gun that the atf
allowed to "walk" across the border. Does anyone in the upper levels of gov't care?
                              Short answer is NO
Those thousands of guns will be in mexico until they get carried back into the us to be
used on americans. Thanks Obama for your failed attempt at gun control. If only his
cabinet included a 5 year old to bounce these-type idiotic ideas off of, we could all be
much better off.

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Re: Will Mexico Cartel Leader's Capture Reduce Violence or Drug Abuse?
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2013, 07:54:05 PM »
A great article on the Mexican drug wars and our government's involvement............. http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/north-america/item/10658-reports-cia-working-with-mexican-drug-cartels
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Re: Will Mexico Cartel Leader's Capture Reduce Violence or Drug Abuse?
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2013, 04:26:37 AM »
A great article on the Mexican drug wars and our government's involvement............. http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/north-america/item/10658-reports-cia-working-with-mexican-drug-cartels


If the cia is "working with drug cartels" I am afraid
  I saw how the atf "worked with drug cartels" costs
a lot of innocent folks their lives still to this day. Turns
out that it is much easier to give away guns than it is to
get them returned. Our present administration is surely
made up of people who are so greedy that they are well
beyond stupid. They don't care how they initiate change,
just so long as a change is made. Now if they could change
into honest, hardworking caring folks-that would be magical
« Last Edit: July 21, 2013, 04:30:36 AM by jones »

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Re: Will Mexico Cartel Leader's Capture Reduce Violence or Drug Abuse?
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2013, 10:19:33 AM »

Now if they could change
into honest, hardworking caring folks-that would be magical
jones that last line is spot on.  :bowdown

 

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