Either they thought he had something of value that was worth all this fuss or they were just trying to shut him up in a permanent fashion. Sounds like a botched job to me...
Yes cameras need to regulated on every cop eventually, and the videos made public domain. Its a win win because it protects the cops and the citizens.
Quote from: spicer on July 12, 2015, 02:33:22 PMYes cameras need to regulated on every cop eventually, and the videos made public domain. Its a win win because it protects the cops and the citizens.Too bad they don't have film on this one. Sounds like there are issues on both sides of the equation here, but it's my word against yours without the video. Unfortunately, that sort of situation typically favors the LEOs in court. So messed up getting shot over weed, though...
Quote from: Uruk-High on July 13, 2015, 11:57:53 AMQuote from: spicer on July 12, 2015, 02:33:22 PMYes cameras need to regulated on every cop eventually, and the videos made public domain. Its a win win because it protects the cops and the citizens.Too bad they don't have film on this one. Sounds like there are issues on both sides of the equation here, but it's my word against yours without the video. Unfortunately, that sort of situation typically favors the LEOs in court. So messed up getting shot over weed, though... Exactly, I dont hate cops on a whole, but when it comes down to their word vs ours in the court of law.. well the officer will come out on top a majority of the time, especially since cops and judges work together to get convictions in the first place. Sure, a few bad apples make them look bad, but even worse is the good cops who stand by and let this kind of shit happen. Something's gotta give eventually.
Quote from: spicer on July 13, 2015, 12:19:36 PMQuote from: Uruk-High on July 13, 2015, 11:57:53 AMQuote from: spicer on July 12, 2015, 02:33:22 PMYes cameras need to regulated on every cop eventually, and the videos made public domain. Its a win win because it protects the cops and the citizens.Too bad they don't have film on this one. Sounds like there are issues on both sides of the equation here, but it's my word against yours without the video. Unfortunately, that sort of situation typically favors the LEOs in court. So messed up getting shot over weed, though... Exactly, I dont hate cops on a whole, but when it comes down to their word vs ours in the court of law.. well the officer will come out on top a majority of the time, especially since cops and judges work together to get convictions in the first place. Sure, a few bad apples make them look bad, but even worse is the good cops who stand by and let this kind of shit happen. Something's gotta give eventually.Which is why I say "There are No Good cops" because every once in awhile a bad cop needs mr. good cop to back up his incorrect, or lying report. As soon asMr. Good cop says "Yes, that is what happened" on a bad cop's report another Good Cop falls down.Anyhow this case is easy to see that the cops are lying sacks of shit. They certainly shot up this guy enough to kill him, but they done fucked the whole thingup by not killing him. He is obviously innocent of any law violent enough to be shot for committing!
Quote from: jones on July 13, 2015, 11:10:12 PMQuote from: spicer on July 13, 2015, 12:19:36 PMQuote from: Uruk-High on July 13, 2015, 11:57:53 AMQuote from: spicer on July 12, 2015, 02:33:22 PMYes cameras need to regulated on every cop eventually, and the videos made public domain. Its a win win because it protects the cops and the citizens.Too bad they don't have film on this one. Sounds like there are issues on both sides of the equation here, but it's my word against yours without the video. Unfortunately, that sort of situation typically favors the LEOs in court. So messed up getting shot over weed, though... Exactly, I dont hate cops on a whole, but when it comes down to their word vs ours in the court of law.. well the officer will come out on top a majority of the time, especially since cops and judges work together to get convictions in the first place. Sure, a few bad apples make them look bad, but even worse is the good cops who stand by and let this kind of shit happen. Something's gotta give eventually.Which is why I say "There are No Good cops" because every once in awhile a bad cop needs mr. good cop to back up his incorrect, or lying report. As soon asMr. Good cop says "Yes, that is what happened" on a bad cop's report another Good Cop falls down.Anyhow this case is easy to see that the cops are lying sacks of shit. They certainly shot up this guy enough to kill him, but they done fucked the whole thingup by not killing him. He is obviously innocent of any law violent enough to be shot for committing!Well, it would seem that he pulled a gun on the cops, so not the best plan for continued survival these days. The issue would be what sort of warning was provided by the cops before gaining entry? If they failed to announce that they're coming in, then this guy had every right to protect himself against potential home invaders. Witnesses seem to suggest that they kicked the door in without warning and with guns blazing. If that's the case, then they should nail the cops for failure to follow appropriate protocol and for causing the violent situation in the first place. Without the video, however, they're likely to nail this guy even more for being a felon in possession of firearms. Sucks, but the deck is stacked against this guy. They're going to need a good technicality and a sympathetic jury to win the day. Luckily, the jury may help folks like this in today's climate.