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Uruk-High:

--- Quote from: AMeanOne on July 20, 2016, 04:48:24 PM ---If clinton wins we're fucked. If trump wins we're fucked. Looks like we're fucked.

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If Crooked Hillary wins, we're definitely fucked. If Trump wins, we're possibly fucked. Better odds with Trump for sure!

ÂçïÐ_Rëƒlü×®:
Today’s report that Donald Trump has chosen Indiana Gov. Mike Pence as his vice presidential running mate is bad news for those of us hoping for cannabis policy reform during the next presidency.

First of all, Pence hails from Indiana, where draconian drug laws still reign supreme. Possession of any amount of cannabis in the state still punishable by a $1,000 fine and 180 days in jail.

In 2013, House Bill 1006 was introduced to overhaul Indiana’s criminal code. The bill originally included a clause to lower marijuana possession charges. Pence, however, refused to accept the lowered penalties, and demanded that legislators bump cannabis possession back up to a Class B misdemeanor before signing the measure into law. Pence said at a press conference, “I think we need to focus on reducing crime, not reducing penalties.”

Various attempts to bring Indiana’s drug laws into the 21st century have repeatedly failed, due at least in part to Pence’s widely held belief that cannabis is a gateway drug.

Uruk-High:

--- Quote from: ÂçïÐ_Rëƒlü×® on July 21, 2016, 01:13:16 AM ---Today’s report that Donald Trump has chosen Indiana Gov. Mike Pence as his vice presidential running mate is bad news for those of us hoping for cannabis policy reform during the next presidency.

First of all, Pence hails from Indiana, where draconian drug laws still reign supreme. Possession of any amount of cannabis in the state still punishable by a $1,000 fine and 180 days in jail.

In 2013, House Bill 1006 was introduced to overhaul Indiana’s criminal code. The bill originally included a clause to lower marijuana possession charges. Pence, however, refused to accept the lowered penalties, and demanded that legislators bump cannabis possession back up to a Class B misdemeanor before signing the measure into law. Pence said at a press conference, “I think we need to focus on reducing crime, not reducing penalties.”

Various attempts to bring Indiana’s drug laws into the 21st century have repeatedly failed, due at least in part to Pence’s widely held belief that cannabis is a gateway drug.



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Yeah, Indiana seems screwed up in that area to me. Kratom is illegal there, too. Pence was definitely Trump's appeal to unite the GOP going into the general. Seems to be working to a large degree, but I definitely don't like his stance on my favorite plants. I did like the other things that he had to say in his speech last night though. On the flip side, Trump seems to be OK with MJ to a decent degree. He's definitely pro medical MJ, and is on the record saying such. On the other side of the fence, Crooked Hillary was on the record as being against it before she made a political decision that she was now for it. Shocker, I know! Of course, the only guys that were really pro MJ, Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders, are now gone from the race. Guess I'll have to decide this one on other factors - again! :(

I wish Trump would have picked Newt for VP instead of Pence. Love him or hate him, he's a pretty damn sharp guy, and I believe he would work with both sides of the fence when given a chance. He made a damn good speech last night IMHO. For those of you that have some doubt or are still undecided, I would give this video a look -

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BV8vGzmsos
He summed things up pretty damn well in my book. This stuff either matters to you or it doesn't, simple as that.


Free da weed!

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avoca:
I'm wondering how many business decisions by Trump equates him to being globalist. If you take jobs from USA then globalist sticks. Maybe Trump has never?  I just don't see how any multibillionaire is anything other than purely all about his $$$

I'd feel more comfortable with trump if he wasn't a (ruthless?) business-monger.

Here's hoping he truly has love for His family. I believe so strongly in love/compassion that if Trump truly loves his kids I think we're safe....I think if one holds true love in their heart that they can only then side with goodness

Crossing my fingers that he's as awesome a family guy as he seems.

EDIT --- LOL my phone capitalized "His" above as though I feel Trumps biblical lol maybe my phone's trying to tell me something hahaha

Uruk-High:

--- Quote from: avoca on July 21, 2016, 11:14:20 AM ---I'm wondering how many business decisions by Trump equates him to being globalist. If you take jobs from USA then globalist sticks. Maybe Trump has never?  I just don't see how any multibillionaire is anything other than purely all about his $$$

I'd feel more comfortable with trump if he wasn't a (ruthless?) business-monger.

Here's hoping he truly has love for His family. I believe so strongly in love/compassion that if Trump truly loves his kids I think we're safe....I think if one holds true love in their heart that they can only then side with goodness

Crossing my fingers that he's as awesome a family guy as he seems.

EDIT --- LOL my phone capitalized "His" above as though I feel Trumps biblical lol maybe my phone's trying to tell me something hahaha

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The basic appeal of Trump is that he is a guy that knows intimately how that gov screws us over directly because of his business dealings. He's basically a traitor in their eyes because he has surely benefited greatly from playing their games, and now he is willing to expose exactly how they're doing it. Just look at how both the GOP and the Dem establishments fought to deny him the nomination. Hell, there are still GOP establishment types that are still fighting his nomination. That's pretty much unprecedented as far as I can recall in my lifetime. In short, there's only one outsider in the race, and his name is Trump. Hillary is the very pinnacle of a corrupted establishment type. Too bad Bernie didn't have the balls to really fight Crooked Hillary for the Dem nomination, but we're going to have to play the cards that we've been dealt. The choices are really very simple now. Trump = a chance at shaking things up and getting back to the basics of what made America the beacon of freedom in the world. Crooked Hillary = more of the same crap that we have been dealing with for the last 30 years (likely on steroids!) Now Trump could turn around on us and not do what he's saying he will, but I don't think anyone has any delusions about what they're going to get with CH. That, to me, means we have a chance with Trump, but there's absolutely no chance for change from the status quo with CH. Choose wisely.

And I agree with you that Trump does seem to be a helluva family man. His kids are nothing short of impressive in my book, and he's willing to turn a multi-billion dollar industry over to their care if he wins. His kids seem to have been very well prepared to succeed in life, and they are definitely an asset to him in this election which is not always the case - good on him! Not sure if you got a chance to see it, but his son delivered a pretty damn good endorsement of his father last night -

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0hxJYkFiFw
If his kids are a true measure of this man's intentions to our country, then we may just be alright after all, IMHO.


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