Brain Candy => Ethnobotanicals => Topic started by: House on February 15, 2013, 03:56:19 AM
Title: Nutmeg
Post by: House on February 15, 2013, 03:56:19 AM
I'm thinkin about givin nutmeg another go sometime, anyone else wanna discuss?
For those who don't know, in large quantities nutmeg becomes psychoactive. It contains the chemicals myristicin and elemicin. It's sorta like being baked for 3 days and really dehydrated. lol
I've tried it a few times in the past and enjoyed it. I got a jar of whole nutmegs the other day and I'm thinking sometime in the future when I'm out of other good psychoactives I'll give it another go.
Anyone else ever try it? lol
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on February 15, 2013, 08:39:52 PM
There's mixed reactions to it, some people seem to say they'd never do it again. I'm one of the ones who has fond memories of the 1 or 2 times I've ever done it. I enjoy the ritual of trying new drugs a lot of the time as much as actually doing them though, and I associate a lot of the memories I have of trying it with the excitement of hunting down whole nutmegs at a store, buying a mortar and pestle to smash them up in, and trying to get it down and not have too many nutmeg burps. Haha. It's terrible to a lot of people but I'm the sort of guy who will put up with a little pain for a little gain.
I remember feeling just baaaaked for like 2 days the first time, and really surprised and pleased.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on February 17, 2013, 02:09:58 PM
Yeah I'm considering trying it sometime I'm out of blends. lol
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: Subgenius on February 23, 2013, 02:10:15 AM
Not my cup of tea!
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: Rdracr on February 23, 2013, 06:45:48 AM
Not for me... Too many better things out there... Just my opinion.. But to each their own.. Like they say variety is the "spice" of life... LOL...
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: Sparrow on February 24, 2013, 09:13:04 PM
I tried it too. It was fucking god-awful, the taste, the feel, not my cup of mxe. But if it works for you, carry on!
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: Winning on February 24, 2013, 10:04:16 PM
Didn't work for me, it doesn't seem to work for a lot of others as well. I did have the pains / dehydration / headaches though.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: CrackersMcgee on February 24, 2013, 10:19:40 PM
That sounds fun.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on March 15, 2013, 03:51:18 AM
At least you know what you're putting in your body with something like nutmeg.. Haha you guys are a bunch of debbie downers.
The times I tried it as a younger man I remember enjoying it.
Now, a few weeks later, I'm gonna try an experiment tonight. I plan on being up until tomorrow night, so I have a long time-frame to work with to give it a go.
I just smashed up 5 'megs' with a hammer in a plastic baggie, wedged between a towel. It's always worked better for me and seemingly for anyone with fresh megs.
A lot of people don't like it, but then a lot of people don't like DXM either, which I have quite enjoyed in the past. I'm gonna give it another go. I'll report back how it feels. I'm staying away from blends on purpose lately, as I lack the self control to not binge on them.. I quite enjoy the mind-altering however, so it's back to fun little experiments a few times a month like the good old daze.
Wish me luck. Gonna start downing the powder with some water now. The worst parts I remember were the dry mouth and nutmeg burps, but for some reason I really like the ritual of the preparation when I do odd substances like this.. The smell of the nutmeg is a good one to me, and not one I've developed a horrible aversion to like with robotussin. This smell is taking me back to a time many years ago, when I was a younger man, first experimenting with things like this, and I quite enjoy that feeling of nostalgia. ;)
Again, wish me luck. :D
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on March 15, 2013, 04:04:07 AM
Here's a few more positive high-rated reports from Erowid..
Nutmeg: A hidden reality http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=5543
Over the counter visions: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=26428
The last one uses a method I tried once before which worked pretty well, of boiling the smashed up nutmegs and using the resulting oil that forms on the top. I'd probably do this, if I didn't currently live with my mother who would wonder why the kitchen smells like nutmeg. Haha
I'm so good at swallowing random stuff (no jokes please!) that I already downed half the smashed up nutmeg in one gulp. Years of practice.
It was this or Morning Glory seeds tonight, as I'm quite bored and my mind is crying for alteration. I figure there's less chance of puking with the nutmeg.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on March 15, 2013, 04:10:03 AM
lmao
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on March 15, 2013, 06:37:42 AM
The light brightness is definitely not placebo.. I feel like I could be more comfortable using the computer with sunglasses on. White background pages are brutal.
Listenin to some chill Nujabes
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on March 15, 2013, 08:06:17 AM
Everything is still quite bright.. Starting to feel more stoned in some way..
edit - noted music euphoria.. Turning off movie, listening to some more MGMT, one of my favorite bands
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on March 15, 2013, 08:58:37 AM
I feel pretty high, definitely well above baseline and out of "could be placebo" territory. Quite enjoyable. Colors and lights are brighter still, music is groovy..
I did what most recommend you don't, I smashed up 3 more nutmegs and took them a minute ago. Haha I wanna be fucked, so I'm hoping in the next few hours it takes me beyond what I'm feeling now into a dream-like state.
It's Friday, I ain't got no job, and I ain't got shit to do!
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: R on March 15, 2013, 09:06:24 AM
Enjoy the experience but don't do it too often. There are lots of studies on people who did this because they didn't have access to any other drugs and there are some short term adverse health risks involved. It brings up the adage that just because it is a natty doesn't necessarily mean it is safe.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on March 15, 2013, 11:17:05 AM
Yeah, I remember reading about frequent use being bad for the liver.
I feel pretty baked at this point.. lol.. been about 7 hours since the initial 5. Was playing some Kingdom Hearts 2 to pass the time.. Now that I stopped my head feels swollen or something haha like in a good way.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on March 15, 2013, 02:31:02 PM
I just went on an hour and a half walk. In the cold air I didn't feel that high or anything, but I felt good.. now that I got home I sit down on the chair here, and daaaamn I'm fuzzy.
I'm thinking about throwing down some DXM on top of it, but then I think I've read that myristicin is a weak MAOI, and MAOI's and DXM don't mix well from what I remember.. I might try a small amount though.. I imagine they'd combine well somehow..
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: Sparrow on March 15, 2013, 02:41:09 PM
Hey House, :biggrin Party on, muthrfkr :stoned
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on March 15, 2013, 04:34:56 PM
Whoooaaaaaaaa.. I had about 4 oz of an 8 oz tussin bottle.. so roughly 300-400 mgs..
It's kicking in hard, way more euphoric than normal, dayum.. I have a feeling this is gonna be a fun ride..
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on March 15, 2013, 05:35:55 PM
The music, man! THE MUSIC
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YEAH
ZIGGY PLAYED GUITARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on March 15, 2013, 06:15:28 PM
Wow, I'm really glad I tried this combo. I have some heartburn, and my mouth is dry, but goddayum I feel like a golden god.
I feel like I'm glowing with some sort of energy.. major euphoria from movement and music. Dunno why I never thought of this combo before... They seem to potentiate each other.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: R on March 16, 2013, 09:36:07 AM
Wow. That is the most glowing report of nutmeg I ever heard of!
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: iBaked on March 17, 2013, 01:51:19 AM
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on March 17, 2013, 05:34:27 AM
I'd say I was in a definite Nutmeg afterglow for most of today, I think I feel baseline now..
The Nutmeg underwhelmed me a bit, considering I had 8 of the 'megs and figured that was a pretty high dose, but mixed with the DXM? Holy balls. The visuals were so much more colorful, and the DXM came on a lot slower but a lot stronger somehow..
Haha Sunshine "keep calm" is right. I wanted to tell the whole world. lol I'm glad I've found a combo that can give me a stronger trip than DXM alone for maybe once in awhile. Not an every day thing by any means. If you do DXM, and you would try nutmeg, I suggest trying them together sometime.
I decided that the MAOI activity sounds pretty light for nutmeg, as it's not reported as a predominant effect very often and seems to be sparsely documented.. sorta like Passion flower.. The combo had no negative effects I'd report, but I'd say experienced trippers only need apply.
I'll be repeating that one again haha. :biggrin For people who don't know how to swallow large amounts of nasty stuff without much trouble I can see how it would be really hard, and nauseating... I never get sick on DXM though and I didn't feel sick from nutmeg either.. Your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: R on March 17, 2013, 08:09:39 AM
You should post your experience on Erowid. That was a useful bit of data and a good trip report.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on March 17, 2013, 09:48:40 PM
Thanks mate.
I don't want anyone to worry about me but I decided to make this the nutmeg weekend.
I had 9 nutmegs at about 6AM this morning so it's been like 14 hours, I feel really good, and I added some dxm in again and this combo is just euphoric heaven.
It might just be me freakin out the other night, maybe not, but either way, I will report feeling like my eyes looked like wrinkly raisins or something they were so dry, like a spongebob cartoon. I dunno if that's how it was, or if I was trippin my face off, but some eye moisturizer might help if anyone goes down my path.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: D3Dman on March 19, 2013, 12:42:29 PM
Be careful on your journeys, brother House. :pimp
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: wessjester on March 19, 2013, 03:09:39 PM
i have done nutmeg before , make sure you research alot how much to take , cuz its not the safest legal trip out there , it all depends how much your body weight is and wether you have a empty stomach too , its like being stoned but only 25% and it lasts for a whole day , i like nutmeg and heavenly blues too if you know what i mean , lol
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on June 17, 2013, 03:10:48 PM
I feel like doing another nutmeg experiment today.. I think I will.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: R on June 17, 2013, 03:22:07 PM
Be safe!
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: Syd on June 17, 2013, 03:23:16 PM
Nutmeg? Jebus Crust, I tried that shit in college once. ONCE. Got so fucked up I couldn't walk and spent a whole night crawling around my dorm. My legs just stopped working. Then I got the worst hangover I ever had the next day. In comparison, I tried Jimson Weed about 3 times, but nutmeg only once.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: R on June 17, 2013, 03:53:06 PM
Datura is bad stuff. Physiological and psychological poison. Avoid Jimsonweed!
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: Syd on June 17, 2013, 04:22:24 PM
Datura is bad stuff. Physiological and psychological poison. Avoid Jimsonweed!
Yeah, it's the one drug I tell people NEVER to fuck with. Almost wound up in a ER the last time (about 1994), never again.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on June 17, 2013, 05:06:51 PM
Based on reviews I've never tried Jimsonweed, angel trumpet, datura, blah blah.. or high doses of Diphenhydramine or Dramamine.
Not my cup of tea.
I've never gotten terrible delirium from nutmeg or anything, it's always been pretty pleasant. I'm a big dude though so maybe it's been harder for me to overdo it.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on June 17, 2013, 06:17:38 PM
Your mileage may vary. Obviously others disagree.
People say the same about DXM. I read somewhere like 1 in 3 people like DXM. If I didn't like it, I'd say "Nothing fun at all about this substance for me rather than say at all.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: R on June 17, 2013, 09:31:43 PM
Maybe fresh ground nutmeg is better than the powered kind, who knows. I know House likes it. Just don't do it too often.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: dimebag420 on June 18, 2013, 08:48:19 PM
Back in high school i was a frequent nutmeg daytripper. The fresher it is the stronger the effects. Most ppl who try it hate it because for a day u cant get that godawful taste out of your mouth and for me any way the day after i always felt like shit. This is one of those occasional things at best though as ive read the toxicity on your liver is quite bad when metabolized. Awesome trip report House! :getstones
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on July 06, 2013, 05:56:25 PM
I decided to have another run witn nutmeg, as it's been a fairly long time. Last time I said I might I couldn't find where I hid it. lol
I smashed with a hammer (in 2 ziplock bags, wrapped in a towel to absorb some shock so the baggie doesn't rip, Tim-Pro-Tip!) 8 whole nutmegs, according to packaging, weighing in as 28-29 grams of nutmeg.
I think this is a dose I took before, I should really keep a journal of experiences.
So far I definitely feel a little bakey up in the old skull. Things look slightly different too. It takes 3-4 good hours to really kick in strong and it builds awhile so I'll try to report back.
As for the claims nutmeg is all negatives and no positives, I think there's plenty of evidence it's worth doing for some people, probably like someone said, people who can put up with the taste for awhile and not cry or be nauseous.
Sure, you'll find a lot of "Meh" reports, and a lot who don't like it, but there's always the "Glowing Experiences" and "Mystical Experiences" categories, of which several reports belong to as well. I suggest checking those out if you want to see what other people than myself who've liked it say.
I know whole nuts are fresher, maybe more of the actives are preserved in the oil that way, I've heard that. I dunno if it makes it qualitatively different.
Those categories on Erowid are nice if you wanna find reports from people who actually got something out of an experience, or really liked it.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on July 06, 2013, 06:35:32 PM
Man I feel baked lol
IT's a very similar feeling, I feel slow, pressure behind the eyes, they feel like they'd be red, expanding headspace feeling..
Very relaxed and everything seems funnier, music is cool. Say what you will but I'm a fan. Every few months I figure it's ok to do.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: R on July 07, 2013, 12:36:09 AM
I think its cool you are having a good time but Im also glad you are limiting your tripping. Happy trails House!
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on July 26, 2016, 04:43:46 AM
RETURN OF THE NUTMEG: THE NUTMEGGENING
I am BACK motherfuckers lol and an old dog likes his old tricks.
I would note that most positive experiences with nutmeg I've found were from smashing or grinding the whole nuts yourself. Preground nutmeg seems to lack the punch. I never really tried it until maybe a year ago, was my last nutmeg experience. It just didn't have the ZAZZ.
I think tomorrow since I have off I'm going to relive the experience. I went and bought some tonight. I have no other drugs, been dry with weed for like a month, and I'm not going back into RC's or cough syrup like I used to do, but Nutmeg I remember fondly, so I'll see how it hits me this time. I feel like being baked for a day or 2.
Such is life.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: House on July 26, 2016, 10:55:29 PM
I smashed up 10 of those little suckers and I washed down the powder with water. I managed to get it all down into toss and wash type of things. Nasty taste but good results. Starting to feel a bit floaty.
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: tibeirious on August 06, 2016, 03:37:34 PM
nutmeg is a motherfucker...i did not like that..too intense :trip:
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: KratomToke on August 10, 2016, 03:38:40 PM
:goodpost
I thought I had heard of using this before? Thinking about it!
:weedspin :weedspin
Title: Re: Nutmeg
Post by: ÂçïÐ_Rëƒlü×® on August 10, 2016, 03:48:26 PM